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that depends on what your definition of 'anime' is
Old March 10th, 2007, 09:18 PM   #1
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Default that depends on what your definition of 'anime' is

i have what i believe is a very important question: since this is 'Anime OTK,' what counts as anime and what doesn't? obviously an animated series or movie from Japan, complete with big eyes, fuku-wearing schoolgirls, omni-colored hair, and big robots/magical powers/destruction of Tokyo Tower definitely qualifies. then we have video games, sharing many of the same qualities. but what about animated shows made in Japan but released in America (ie, Thundercats); American shows composed of different anime (RoboTech); American original animated shows that show influence from anime (Teen Titans)? or American video games that aren't in the same style, like Tomb Raider? already in the gallery we have pics from two of those series, plus Kim Possible, Gooftroop, and Inspector Gadget, and clips from Tom and Jerry. note that i am in no way complaining. really, am wanting to know what if any parameters are in place here so that if i write a fic that isn't in the strictest sense 'anime' it doesn't create friction.

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Old March 10th, 2007, 09:30 PM   #2
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Shall we assume 'anime' is short for 'animation'?

(You forgot "Avatar" the best cartoon to come out of America since the "looney Tunes")
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Old March 10th, 2007, 09:33 PM   #3
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augh, you're right! i was gonna get to that one, along with Code Lyoko, W.I.T.C.H., and prolly some others i forgot.
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Old March 10th, 2007, 10:08 PM   #4
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I don't know what to say. Anime for me is probably Animations made in Japan, by the Japanese from a Japanese concept for the Japanese market. I'm not strictly excluding things that are in an anime style but arn't made in Japan by the Japanese or are made in Japan but supervised by an American director for the American market but I wouldn't class them as Anime without review.

Naturally, I'd have to watch the program at watch it before making my judgement - and it would be able to lodge a maximum of two appeals to the higher court of peoples opinion.

I suppose the classic view of animes like Sailor moon, Cutey Honey and things like Naruto or Bleach is that they come from a manga written by a Japanese author/artist and they are an animated form of that. The definintion of an OVA for example is that its "Original Video Anime" which is to say: It's not based on the manga. (Of course, it's become a generic term for 'extras' now. FMP: Fumoffu is technically an OVA despite it being drawn from the manga more accuratly than the first and second series.

I am a bit of an Anime Zealot. I don't like Teen Titans for example, it's a VERY american concept (Dark Horse, DC comics etc) so even though its reasonably Anime I'd not class it as Anime. That doesn't mean it's excluded from this board, but I don't think it's anime same as something Japanese in it's class. Same with Totally Spies Which I DO quite like, Trollz is another one, Animeish style but not in my opinion a true anime, it's an Animation.

So, I sum up to say, Anime should be from a Japanese manga. I think thats the standard a lotta Japanese hold Anime to as well, if its not from a manga (or perhaps a doujin) they don't wanna know.

I don't have a militant problem with American Animation (for that is what it is) but it's not Anime.




Oh, and Tomb Raider is British, not American! If it was ever animated by anyone I've no doubt it'd be sucky. The Americans butched the films, first wasn't too bad, but the second was as bad as films get (At a time I was a HUGE Lara fanboy, I had posters and everything, it was crushing) and the TopCow comic was a little... underutilied. She made too many guest appearences with Fathom and Sara Penzini for my liking (WitchBlade, something ELSE that was ruined in Anime/Film/Tv)
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Old March 10th, 2007, 10:15 PM   #5
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The focus is spanking art of anything that came out of Japan, or is loosely drawn in the "anime style" (and I really dislike the term "anime style"). The site isn't meant to be a clearinghouse for every piece of spanking art people feel like uploading, but the definition isn't strictly enforced.

Moreover, the 'rules' about this, such as they are, are traditionally looser for artists posting their own work. Bottom line: no one's going to mind if there's art of American cartoons, but I don't think we want a gallery of Lil' Iodine comics here. The site's name is Anime OTK, after all.

Besides, it was a lousy comic anyway. :P
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Old March 11th, 2007, 05:31 AM   #6
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Actually the definition of OVA, never required it not to be based on as manga. the definition was "not originally attend for TV or Theaters" ie Sight to Video (and now DVD)

hence could be more arts and niche as it did not need need mass appeal to be markable.
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Old March 12th, 2007, 01:50 AM   #7
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If I recall correctly, the Japanese refer to any animated media as anime - considering the roots of the word, this makes sense. So, know how the majority of Western anime fans get enraged by people referring to anime as cartoons? To the Japanese, cartoon and anime are synonymous.

That being said, within this community, anime really does have a separate meaning. There are various things which I have no problem with being here, and indeed quite like in some cases, but still wouldn't call "anime".

So, things like Teen Titans and Final Fantasy (one being American, the other being a video game) for instance, are fine, but I wouldn't call them anime. FF is very close though. In fact, considering there is a 4-episode Final Fantasy series (based loosely on FF4 or 5 - the elemental crystals one, with the standard hero, the priestess/princess girl and the pirate lady) as well as a single episode anime gong in-depth into Cloud's past (FF7), I guess Final Fantasy is indeed an anime. But the games are merely close.

So yeah, there's plenty of "Strictly speaking it isn't anime" here. But I don't mind, particularly if things are drawn in "anime style" (a term that leaves a lot of room for interpretation). Heck, I think I've drawn a grand total of one piece of spanking art using actual anime characters (Ami from Sailor Moon), and zero fanfics of existing anime, the rest being my own stuff. So by my own definition, my stuff doesn't belong here but I'll keep posting as long as people don't mind.

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Old March 12th, 2007, 02:10 AM   #8
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Back on Oshiritataki, the charter was:

It belongs here if it is spanking related and:
a) anime style, OR
b) cute
c) bonus points if it's on a and b

Those rules allowed Fist of the North Star spankings (a), Palcomix spankings (many of which are cute, based on my subjective cute-meter) and sailor moon spankings (a + b). Superman and Little Iodine spankings were definitively out.

That method was troublesome because it depended of what's exactly anime style and what I consider cute. On AB, I tried to come with a clearer method. The best (and shortest) thing I could come with was:

It belongs here if it is spanking related and:
a) you could be called a wapanese (or bapanese, whatever works in your case) for liking/drawing/writting it.

Sometimes, it's useful to learn the definitions of your enemies.
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Old March 12th, 2007, 10:24 PM   #9
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Back on Oshiritataki, the charter was:
a) you could be called a wapanese (or bapanese, whatever works in your case) for liking/drawing/writting it.
Ooh, I like that definition. If it makes you a wap, then it's in.

And I believe the term is weeaboo
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Old March 12th, 2007, 10:55 PM   #10
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It belongs here if it is spanking related and:
a) you could be called a wapanese (or bapanese, whatever works in your case) for liking/drawing/writing it.
That's always a problem for the bolded part. Artists always can make it anime related by just paying a little effort, for a story it is much harder. I can't just add a sweatdrop into the whole thingy for once! Well I could, but it'd not really fit well in an anime purpose, unless I'm writing Slayers fanfic and have Lina spanking people with a sweatdrop. She could, you know it.

And then there's the whole "spanking related" part which is even more troublesome. If the first chapter has it, but not the next two, does it already count? What if the first doesn't, but the next? Wah @_@

I am not disagreeing, just poking what is alright to post n this site
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