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Last Comment Posted	Oshi no Ko 2.13 "Psychological Manipulation" : Define, please. And not in some way that EVERY HUMAN INTERACTION can't be seen as abusive in some way. One can see "manipulation" everywhere. People don't think this stuff through before they start throwing around useless bromides like "psychological manipulation is abuse". They often don't even qualify it even in the slightest by "KNOWING psychological manipulation is abuse". There are three types of suspected knowing manipulation that can be considered non-abusive by me : 1) It's for my own good. Parents have to 'manipulate' alot. 2) It benefits all people in the transaction. 3) The person I THINK is doing the Knowingly psychological manipulation is doing it for their own NEEDS not wants. Such as expressing emotion (hence the ridiculous idea that someone else's feelings and them expressing such feelings can be abusive to you is precluded) or getting something else they need to survive or for the relationship to survive. In this case, often better communication is called for. Now before anyone accuses me not believing that this person is abusive: 1) I said INTENT MATTERS. This guy has a purely selfish intent. 2) It's easy to suss out knowing psychological maniuplation in fiction is we often get a Gods Eye view of the manipulators mind and intent. 3) Obviously other abuse is going on here. The lies for instance aren't 'little white lies' but are part of the manipulation and a way to control information. As someone upstream pointed out there is lots of violation of BDSM protocol here. My point wasn't about this comic, but about real life. I'm not sure if its possible to have a human relationship without some manipulation going on at least unconsciously. Any known seductive behavior by either sex is 'manipulation', though lots of the sexual signalling is probably instinctual. And then there's the example of babies. Babies for instance, are cute for a reason, and they can't help their cuteness so griping about it pointless.

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