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alt_cor



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Registered: April 2007
Location: Santiago, Chile
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Date: Mon June 13, 2022
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remo1
Gold Member
First, I'm not criticizing the artwork, I'm just explaining my current reaction. Which is in part increduality.

I think current sexual harassment policies in the US are sexist ("reasonable woman" vs "reasonable person"), overbroad, too punitive for most of the small infractions, and yet this is clearly a world in which no such policies exist at all! Imagine just strolling into a principals office, spanking the principal despite the clear guilt of your offspring, and then having such offspring ALSO take a turn. I don't know who, outside a world famous assassin or The Kingpin of Crime could think they could just get away with something like that.
#1 Mon June 13, 2022 22:08

carat
Member
Well, you said it yourself. This policies clearly do not exist in this world. Like most fiction, it requires suspension of disbelief on a level to work, and it is a running trend in alt's stories.
Take Yin's story, for example. A group of bikers sexually assaulting a police officer? (spnaking counts as such when non-consensual, if I'm not mistaken) The heat brough upon them would burn a hole right through the ground. A manager spanking an employee? HR would have a field day with it.

Rules are clearly not enforced. That's just the way it is. For someone in that world where that is the norm, it makes perfect sense to so something like this.
#2 Mon June 13, 2022 22:32

alt_cor
Artist
Quote:
First, I'm not criticizing the artwork, I'm just explaining my current reaction. Which is in part increduality.

I think current sexual harassment policies in the US are sexist ("reasonable woman" vs "reasonable person"), overbroad, too punitive for most of the small infractions, and yet this is clearly a world in which no such policies exist at all! Imagine just strolling into a principals office, spanking the principal despite the clear guilt of your offspring, and then having such offspring ALSO take a turn. I don't know who, outside a world famous assassin or The Kingpin of Crime could think they could just get away with something like that.
I draw fantasy scenarios.
Spanking in real life is different.
#3 Mon June 13, 2022 22:41

OnesionRa
Junior Member
Yin's story? Can someone jog my memory?
#4 Tue June 14, 2022 00:22

CrimsonKidCK
Gold Member
Well, remo1, this is portraying a totally dystopian society, rather like George Orwell's Oceania (from 1984) in its overall feel.

This mini-comic can make you grateful that you're living in a more enlightened situation, at least... --C.K.
#5 Tue June 14, 2022 01:21

remo1
Gold Member
Crimsonkid:
No, I can't accept the current real world situation with respect to laws and policies like this is 'more enlightened'. The world IN this drawing (not THE drawing which is sexy at least) is dystopian , but our current world is dystopian in just the opposite way. For instance, in both Great Britain AND Spain you can now get arrested and charged for staring too long at a woman (I don't believe the British laws apply to men, and I KNOW the Spanish ones do n ot...stare at men all you want). I was watching a video with two Canadian lawyers talking and one was complaining how a client was being charged with sexually assaulting his wife. By 'sexual assault' apparently he went to HUG his wife and accidentally BRUSHED one of her breasts. Now whether the wife had it in for her husband and reported this OR merely told it as an amusing story to one of her friends who then made a third party report to some prosecutor who would actually PROSECUTE this (possibly even against the 'victims' , er, wives wishes) doesn't really matter. I'm also aware that in the US there are whole legal projects whose whole goal is to move things like 'affirmative consent' from college campuses to the legal system in general. In the US the vast majority of the States (and I think the Feds though its been years since I looked it up for them) use the Duluth Model of Domestic violence which basically is sexist in that it denies the existence of male victims (women basically never abuse and only hit in self defense) denies the existence of mutually violent relationships, and claims all male DV from a small bruise on a grabbed shoulder to a beatdown with belt and fists is somehow tied to patriarchal control motivations. I could go on and on from the ridiculous (you can't ever really be sure you are satisfying them and they are esp weaponized against male Doms in the BDSM community) expanded ideas of what is necessary for 'true consent', to our ridiculous child porn laws (you can get arrested for a teen selfie of YOURSELF, or for sending stuff to your boyfriend or girlfriend, one guy got arrested and jailed because he had been importing hundreds of Japanese manga per month for years and in ONE of them there was a scene with TWO TEEN ELVES having sex) to on and on. Anyway, this may be a bit of a rant, but the changes in laws and policies esp over the past 20 years have went too far, broken up and otherwise hindered heterosexual relationships for no good reason, enabled a vast expansion of government power and certainly do nothing but make (mostly) women constant victims, rather than giving them agency and really empowering them.
#6 Tue June 14, 2022 03:29

alt_cor
Artist
What has this site turned into?
#7 Tue June 14, 2022 03:33

rock lee
Member
This site has lost sight of what it set out to be in the first place. So, I sympathize with you Alt Cor
#8 Tue June 14, 2022 04:43

Jin
Senior Member
Sir this is a Wendy's.

More seriously: if a porn drawing gives you political feelings that's fine, but the comments section for a porn drawing is a really silly place to try and have a political discussion.
#9 Tue June 14, 2022 05:05

milf
Very Bad Little Girl!
My my my... A pedo dream site that grew into a pornopolitical battleground.. Yumm lighten up guys.. If you really gonna vent on a spanking cartoon porno site about laws that are going for a more sexualized anti family, anti hetero, pro pervert style.. then you should just find another place to be. Society is going pro pedo, pro bestiality, pro pervert. Get ready for it or get over it, a porno site is NOT the place to argue it. (Hello I am a pervert and approve this message.) Vote Orgasmus! Future defiler of innocence Galaxy Wide. (Paid for by the committee to lock up Dr. Strange and promote Loki to full ruler of the MultiVerse!)
#10 Tue June 14, 2022 06:18

Melakka
Artist
I hope 'the site' hasn't turned into anything ugly! There is one guy forever equating real world experience to fantasy and so building an argument on sandy foundations. Alt_cor has previously and comprehensively demolished this line of attack yet still it keeps coming to all of our detriment. Philosophy is not your strong point remo1
#11 Tue June 14, 2022 07:40

Akuma
Administrator
I'll be addressing this tomorrow.
#12 Tue June 14, 2022 09:58

Aetanne
Member
Hehe, lovely comic as usual)
I'm sorry your art so often invites such misplaced discussion. I hope those comments don't kill your muse. I, for one, really enjoy your art and the "mean vibe" of the pics!
#13 Tue June 14, 2022 15:35

remo1
Gold Member
I like how one person discussing something with another is 'what has this site turned into'. And then people come along and invent imaginary attacks on artists inside their own heads. If anyone can actually pull said 'attack' on alt-cor or this wonderful illustration out of my text, I'd love to see it. Otherwise, why not let me reply to someone as I want, and just bugger off?
#14 Tue June 14, 2022 16:50

stickthatbuttout
Senior Member
Extreme unfairness is one of the plot devices that I greatly enjoy.
#15 Tue June 14, 2022 16:51

alt_cor
Artist
Quote:
I like how one person discussing something with another is 'what has this site turned into'. And then people come along and invent imaginary attacks on artists inside their own heads. If anyone can actually pull said 'attack' on alt-cor or this wonderful illustration out of my text, I'd love to see it. Otherwise, why not let me reply to someone as I want, and just bugger off?
I never said you attacked me, remo1.

Freedom of speech is great, but I think there is a place for everything. The comment section on this site used to be people happy to admire art and share their fantasies. Now is politics, virtue signaling, woke stuff and discussing the laws of physics.

It just kills the joy, that's all.
#16 Tue June 14, 2022 17:20

remo1
Gold Member
Hey, alt:
I said "and then a person comes along..."
Clearly, I didn't mean you.
As for the rest, I generally agree.
Me and Crimson Kid aren't the type to throw stones at each other, nor do we get in any real arguments. I just disagreed with how he characterized the modern west in relation to certain things.
This is an art site, and , as such people are going to have different reactions.I loved the spanking part of your drawing but was just incredulous about the general setup that led to it. Ironically, I found your Lin spanking stuff much more realistic. Why? Well, I know it took place in a big city, but if it was a real small place in the middle of nowhereville, I could see it actually happening as many real small towns might have a few offices and such but they often have few, if any cops and if a non-local biker group was to ride into town, I could see them downright intimidating local law enforcement to the point where they might actually get away with a spanking for a local secretary or some such person. Then, if they got out of town quick and people were either too embarrassed or just didn't know which group of bikers it was...
Anyway, anything I else I say in relation to CK will be in PM. I have no wish to disrupt your thread. I just wish people would stop accusing me of shit I don't do.
#17 Tue June 14, 2022 17:37

alt_cor
Artist
Quote:
Hey, alt:
I said "and then a person comes along..."
Clearly, I didn't mean you.
As for the rest, I generally agree.
Me and Crimson Kid aren't the type to throw stones at each other, nor do we get in any real arguments. I just disagreed with how he characterized the modern west in relation to certain things.
This is an art site, and , as such people are going to have different reactions.I loved the spanking part of your drawing but was just incredulous about the general setup that led to it. Ironically, I found your Lin spanking stuff much more realistic. Why? Well, I know it took place in a big city, but if it was a real small place in the middle of nowhereville, I could see it actually happening as many real small towns might have a few offices and such but they often have few, if any cops and if a non-local biker group was to ride into town, I could see them downright intimidating local law enforcement to the point where they might actually get away with a spanking for a local secretary or some such person. Then, if they got out of town quick and people were either too embarrassed or just didn't know which group of bikers it was...
Anyway, anything I else I say in relation to CK will be in PM. I have no wish to disrupt your thread. I just wish people would stop accusing me of shit I don't do.
It's OK.

Just a little tought. I've been spanking girls for 21 years (yes, I'm old), I'm not saying it to brag but to make clear I know how things work in real life. Drawings depict fantasy scenarios, if I were to depict real life spankings then it would be always two consenting adults agreeing to roleplay and then roleplaying. I don't know about you, but I think that would be extremely boring.
#18 Tue June 14, 2022 17:57

RobM
~Sweetest Cyanide~
I've long since gone passed the point of suspecting that some people just have a fetish for being a giant buzzkill and others for Catastrophising that the sky is falling.

Like: the music has stopped, everyone at the party is glaring at you, there's an awkward, annoyed silence. People are shuffling their feet. They're still glaring daggers at you.
Congrats on achieving what you set out to do(!) But no-one is grateful.

And no, I don't want a response to this message explaining how I'm wrong and this discussion was really important and how bringing RL into this chat cheered everyone up. It didn't. It's verging on the equivalent of being visited by AotK's version of Colin Robinson.
#19 Tue June 14, 2022 22:39

Remo sometimes just says shit and it's best to ignore him.
#20 Wed June 15, 2022 01:44

CrimsonKidCK
Gold Member
Ummmm, there are dystopian elements in some of my stories, there's nothing wrong with them existing in fantasies, notably spanking-oriented ones. When my darling wife paddles my behind though, it's always fully consensual.

I wasn't commenting on any particular RL situations... --C.K.
#21 Wed June 15, 2022 04:59

yuma
Probationary User
You are probably my favorite artist concerning spanking art. Do I wish it to be like that in real life - that any man would just spank any woman who gets on his nerves? Of course not. I'm a feminist - and I absolutely enjoy your work, which is clearly a hot, kinky fantasy world that has nothing to do with real life. I love your bratty spankees and your unfair, trollish spankers and I guess 99% of people can divide very well between these spanking fantasies and reality. And the people who can't are probably wrong on this site anyway. So thanks for your art and I hope you never lose the fun in posting it here just because of some few users who seem to mistake this as a political forum.
#22 Thu June 16, 2022 19:53

Nitrogen
Member
Art that invites debate and discussion is good art, in my opinion. I personally have some difficulty differentiating between fantasy and reality sometimes, but I know this is a fantasy world where women get spanked all the time and all the fathers have dad bods or are built like tanks! In some ways it's a fun universe.

I've fallen foul of it before too, complaining about only girls being naked for spankings while boys keep their clothes on or are not portrayed at all. Drawings are for the viewers' pleasure, when the person buying a commission is a heterosexual male, well, then of course they want to see women's bottoms over male ones!
#23 Thu June 16, 2022 22:39

alt_cor
Artist
Quote:
You are probably my favorite artist concerning spanking art. Do I wish it to be like that in real life - that any man would just spank any woman who gets on his nerves? Of course not. I'm a feminist - and I absolutely enjoy your work, which is clearly a hot, kinky fantasy world that has nothing to do with real life. I love your bratty spankees and your unfair, trollish spankers and I guess 99% of people can divide very well between these spanking fantasies and reality. And the people who can't are probably wrong on this site anyway. So thanks for your art and I hope you never lose the fun in posting it here just because of some few users who seem to mistake this as a political forum.
You are a person who gets it.

And I love the fact that you mentioned you are a feminist. I've had feminist spankees in real life who loved to be dominated, punished and even humilliated, but they also understood that sexual fantasies and respect / equal treatment in society are two completely different things.
#24 Fri June 17, 2022 01:58

alt_cor
Artist
Quote:
Art that invites debate and discussion is good art, in my opinion. I personally have some difficulty differentiating between fantasy and reality sometimes, but I know this is a fantasy world where women get spanked all the time and all the fathers have dad bods or are built like tanks! In some ways it's a fun universe.

I've fallen foul of it before too, complaining about only girls being naked for spankings while boys keep their clothes on or are not portrayed at all. Drawings are for the viewers' pleasure, when the person buying a commission is a heterosexual male, well, then of course they want to see women's bottoms over male ones!
I appreciate your comment.

Just a little thing, a good portion of my commissioners and the people who love my art are women. If there weren't any women that enjoy to be spanked then spankers like me could not exist.
#25 Fri June 17, 2022 02:02

carat
Member
I commend you on taking things calmly and taking the time to reason and explain, alt_cor, even to people who probably are not terribly interested on explanations or have heard them all before.

Unfairness is personally not my thing, but as the wise man said "preferences are like cocks: it's fine to have one and be really excited about it, but don't shove it down people's throats, don't produce them when uncalled for, and keep it to yourself in front of children"
#26 Fri June 17, 2022 06:21

yuma
Probationary User
alt_cor: Absolutely agree! I wish that more people would understand it like that. It's a pity that so many people don't get it that a kink/sexual preference is just that - a preference and a part (!) of a person's personality. So many people seem to think that it completely defines a person in absolutely every situation and all aspects of their character. Which really doesn't make it easier to outlive such fantasies.
#27 Sat June 18, 2022 19:40


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